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FMA, Politics, and Propriety


I was going to leave the Federal Marriage Amendment controversy alone, having already poked that hornets’ nest last summer. But the Washington Post pushed me into a response this evening, with one of the most deliberately blind, partisan editorials I’ve ever seen from their usually analytical and pragmatic (if left-wing) editorial board.

I actually agree with their introductory premise — that a ban on gay “marriages” doesn’t belong in the U.S. Constitution. At base, it’s a social/societal issue rather than a question of governmental structure; the only similar issue addressed in the Constitution is Prohibition — and we see how well that worked out. In an ideal world, it would be completely unnecessary.

But let’s be honest here. The 1996 Defense of Marriage Act, meant to do essentially the same thing as the FMA, is likely to be declared unconstitutional sooner or later. It seems on its face to violate the “full faith and credit” clause requiring states to accept “the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings” of every other state, and I’d bet the main reason it hasn’t been challenged yet is simply for lack of a sympathetic-enough test case.

Those future test cases are being created right now, as gay marriages in America are being brought into existence by one decision of the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court and the extra-legal actions of the mayor of San Francisco and one county magistrate in New Mexico. That’s a total of nine people making the decision, against the clearly-expressed will of a majority of Americans, to completely redefine a basic building block of five thousand-plus years of human society.

Those actions only have effect in three states at the moment. But what happens when DOMA goes away? There’s simply no way left to securely defend that majority’s position short of a Constitutional amendment. And though I don’t believe FMA will come close to ratification, President Bush at least deserves respect for having the political courage to bring his position in front of the American people for their approval or disapproval.

It’s instructive to note that the one route gay marriage advocates haven’t really tried hard on anywhere but Hawaii and Vermont is the one in which the American people could speak most clearly: through state legislatures. Why haven’t they? Because every time they do, they lose badly. So instead they have appealed to individuals, in the most liberal places they can find, to either unilaterally redefine the law (Mass. SJC) or just break it openly (CA and NM), hoping that “full faith and credit” will eventually let them ram these regional victories down the throat of an unwilling nation. That’s not political courage. (Funny, we didn’t see these guys defending civil disobedience in the case of Judge Roy Moore.)

President Bush didn’t start this fight, and it might have been politically smarter for him to stay out of it — there are safer ways to mollify the religious-right base, like reinforcing federal grant availablity to faith-based charities or taking another shot at partial-birth abortionists. And this is a fight his side will most likely lose in the long run. That’s simply because the required majority of us (because we’re choosing the democratic route to our goal) are not prepared to become as our enemies, in countering their judicial and extra-legal chicanery by doing something nearly as ridiculous to the Constitution of the United States.

From my conservative vantage point, these are the initial tremors of societal breakdown. And the conservative desire to stick to the rules and laws (written and unwritten) that have served us well for over two hundred years leaves me powerless against it. It’s a depressing state in which to find myself — and the country.

25 February 2004 / 6 Comments / Tags: politics

Comments on “FMA, Politics, and Propriety”

  1. Well, you probably already gathered I would respond, but on some issues you raised, I agree. shock

    The fact is, an amendment doesn’t belong in the constitution, agree or disagree with gay marriage. Just like abortion, litigating our social lives and decisions is not the place of the constitution or the federal government.

    But lets get one thing straight, there are no courageous politicians on either side of the fence. Bush is using this as a political issue in an attempt to polarize the electorate and as you already pointed out, he’ll fail. This is how the DMA came about in ‘96, so that Clinton could score points with the moderate right. It worked for Clinton, its not gonna work for Bush. In fact, I think in the end it will weaken his campaign.

    Oh, and as for the whole mob mentality where the “majority have spoken” and the “majority of Americans disagree with gay marriage,” I only have to say this: If you disagree, write your congressman and tell them to vote for an Amendment to the Constitution. We live in the Demoratic Republic, governed by individuals elected and appointed by the people. So those nine or so people you refer to are elected (or appointed) officials representing the will of their constituency.

    capt.taco on February 26th, 2004 at 11:16 am
  2. Rob: the problem is that the push for gay marriage, by its current strategy of leveraging judicial and/or executive decisions in liberal locales into national mandates through “full faith and credit”, is fundamentally anti-democratic because it bypasses the legislative process in those locales, and the entire system everywhere else in the country.

    If gay marriage advocates got a law passed in, say, Maryland that affected MD only, I wouldn’t be terribly happy about it, but it’s their right to do so as a sovereign state. But when they bring the “marriage” across the Potomac, and force something on Virginians that we have chosen not to accept, that’s when it becomes my business.

    Flip the issue over: should I be able to carry a handgun into the District, or New York City, on a Virginia concealed weapons permit? The populace has spoken in those two jurisdictions, and while I disagree wholeheartedly with what they’ve done, I also wouldn’t violate their law (though it might be personally safer for me to do so).

    As for the political analysis of Bush’s play, I got started on it but cut it out of this article for reasons of length. So I’m gonna try to finish it up on a plane tomorrow night, and post upon arrival at my destination. (Accumulated frequent flyer miles plus Priceline == FUN.)

    Josh on February 26th, 2004 at 9:40 pm
  3. Where have these judicial/executive decisions bypassed the legislative process? In Massacusetts (sp? no time to proofread) the state legislature is voting to approve or not approve the decision of the court and similar actions are sure to follow in Vermont and California. (the governator is already making noise about it) Rather, the push is for state action, and to attract national media attention to the issue, which it gained undeniably when Bush gave his State of the Union in January. Also, if the original DMA is to be declared unconstitutional, there will be a legislative process that will endure. So, again, I fail to see how these moves are bypassing legislative process, in fact I think it forces the issue onto the legislative bodies.

    And don’t forget, eventhough I’m liberal, I’m still a southerner and ardent fan of state’s rights. Which is why I’m against the FMA in the first place. Sure, they will let States decide on civil unions, but not on whether it is called a marriage and has the legal implications that follow. The FMA would be a major blow to state’s rights.

    As I see it, there are two sides to the issue, due to the duality of marriage in society. First, it is a moral/religious/spiritual union and second it is a union that ties 2 persons legally. For example, in Virginia, you can have the latter without the former (common-law marriage) but it is not recognized in all states as a legal union. What the FMA proposes to do is dictate to our society the moral/spirtual/etc part of the union, but leave it up to the states about the legal part. That seems backwards to me, if anything let the Feds decide on the legality of the unions and leave the moral debate for the tennis court.

    As an exercise, look at all of the debates and articles related to the FMA and replace gay marriage with black rights and you’re in the 1960s all over again. This is a civil rates debate, plain and simple. Agreeing or disagreeing with gay marriage (or homosexuality for that matter) is fine, but debate it in church, in your home or on the golf course w/your friends.

    Before we can properly debate gay marriage, I think our society and government needs to come to terms with the duality of the marriage issue. Whether or not gay marriage is moral is a great debate for our society, but no place for our government. However, if marriage is a legal right within this country, then should it only be allowed only for certain couples and not all couples? That is the appropriate debate for our government (state, federal), not the moral debate.

    capt.taco on February 27th, 2004 at 9:26 am
  4. “However, if marriage is a legal right within this country, then should it only be allowed only for certain couples and not all couples?”

    And why limit it to couples? How triples? Septuples? And why limit it to adults? Or even human? Okay…so I’m stretching here. But not with regard to polygamy (as only adults should be able to properly consent to marriage, right?).

    You want to redraw the line. But whereever you redraw the line is fair! No gay marriage is fair (they can still marry someone of the opposite sex, if they chose to). Gay marriage would be fair. Only gay marraige would be fair (revoke hetero marriage), if odd. Polygamy would fair (1 to many, or many to many).

    Are you willing to accept that position? Because if not, your position is hypocritical. Why? Because you have removed morality as an issue: “Whether or not gay marriage is moral is a great debate for our society, but no place for our government.” And it becomes an issue of who can do what instead of who should do what. If you are not willing to accept that polygamy would also be acceptable, then you need to find a new line of argument/reasoning. Or is there something I’m missing?

    Personally, I don’t care about gay marriage. But I do care about judges (re-)reading the laws to suit their agendas. So I’m thoroughly pissed at the gay marriage movement judges for that. I’m interested to see if some conservative judges will do likewise…and then we can have blatantly contradictory laws. That would certainly prove entertaining.

    It should be a state by state issue, but it almost certainly won’t end up that way.

    Ach on February 27th, 2004 at 5:42 pm
  5. Actually, Ach, I don’t want to redraw the line, I want to remove it. But before I go into your polygamy arguement, let me clear some things up about judges.

    A Judge’s constitutional duty is to question the law. Its called Checks & Balances and what our country’s government is based upon. A branch to create, execute and uphold (which includes questioning).

    To answer a second question you posed, Yes, I am willing to accept my position because my position removes morality as an issue for our Government. (society is another matter)

    As for polygamy, show me where the issue is being raised? Gay marriage is an issue that is being presented, polygamy is not. And if by allowing gay marriage now means that down the road polygamous marriage will be debated, then I’m all for it. (note, I’m not for polygamous marriage, but I AM for debating its legality, or any issue’s for that matter)

    The problem with allowing morality to dictate our government is that it squashes debate on its legality, which should remain as the first and foremost debate for our government. Laws are universal, common to all citizens, where morals are not and should not be.

    You make my point for me when you warn about “… it becomes an issue of who can do what instead of who should do what.” Why should our government ever decide on what we SHOULD do, instead of only choosing what we CAN do?

    As counterpoint, if we disallow gay marriage, what will stop someone from requiring couples to be of the same race, the same color, the same weight…

    capt.taco on March 1st, 2004 at 11:32 am
  6. As long as you realize and accept the implications of your argument (ie polygamy would be perfectly reasonable for the same reasons), that suits me. Personally, I agree with you with regards to government (shouldn’t tell us what we should do…it’s not my nanny, dammit). And as for this issue, I personally find it difficult to care. I wouldn’t want a constitutional amendment either way (to solve the problem). I also don’t want judges determining a social construct. Society at large should decide social constructs. And if a select few people were to decide these things, they had better have been voted for (as opposed to appointed).

    “A Judge’s constitutional duty is to question the law.” And I’m all for judges throwing bad laws out. What I’m against is judges -instantiating- laws by their rulings. Judges should do two things: interpret or, in the case of supreme courts, possible reject laws as unconstitutional. Unfortunately, some judges just can’t seem to handle “interpret” in an appropriate manner.

    Example, the second amendment. All the other amendments are individual rights. The second? Oh, it’s a “collective right” or something, and so gaurantees the individual nothing. When law doesn’t suit some judges views, they opt to treat it figurative, or maybe literal, or who know how else…

    Okay, I shouldn’t post a 1:30am. I hope this was coherent.

    Ach on March 10th, 2004 at 1:29 am